[qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33

Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever possible.

I followed these guides regarding networking:

I installed following packages into debian-10-minimal template and based the sys-net and sys-firewall on it:

qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-core-agent-network-manager qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root nano qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector qubes-core-agent-nautilus nautilus gnome-terminal

Once I change the sys-whonix and sys-firewall, the network icon doesnt show any Wi-Fi Networks, only ethernet.

Any workaround?

'taran1s' via qubes-users:

Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever possible.

I followed these guides regarding networking:

Minimal Templates | Qubes OS
Contents/anonymizing-your-mac-address.md at master · Qubes-Community/Contents · GitHub

I installed following packages into debian-10-minimal template and based the sys-net and sys-firewall on it:

qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-core-agent-network-manager qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root nano qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector qubes-core-agent-nautilus nautilus gnome-terminal

Once I change the sys-whonix and sys-firewall, the network icon doesnt show any Wi-Fi Networks, only ethernet.

Sorry, sys-net and sys-firewall, not sys-whonix of course.

Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under
debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success.
Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease
the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever
possible.

I don’t have any suggestion for the Debian issue, but what I do to limit the updates is clone the fedora-33-minimal to a template called fedora-33-net, strip out any apps not needed, and then use that for my networking AppVM’s. With fewer apps there are far fewer updates to deal with.

Hi,
I use Debian 10 for sys-net. It works great.

Here are the steps that works for me.
1 - Install the minimal template for debian 10
2 - Update the template
3 - Install the qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root package (if you want)
4 - Shutdown the template
5 - Create a clone of the template (deb-10-sys)
6 - Start deb-10-sys
7 - Install the following package: qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-network-manager pciutils
8 - Shutdown deb-10-sys
9 - Change the template for sys-net to deb-10-sys (after shutting down all qubes) and start sys-net
10 - If everything works (wired and wireless) you are good to go if not
11 - Start xterm in sys-net
12 - Use lspci to see the info of the card that is not working
13 - Search the web to see which firmware needs to be installed in debian to support that card
14 - Start deb-10-sys, install the firmware and shutdown deb-10-sys
15 - Restart sys-net - everything should work

I know I have use debian for firewall and USB in the past but went back to Fedora for USB because of some issue (don’t even remember what issue) and I am now trying Mirage for firewall.

Hope it helps!

D.